No, but I do agree that we could have done better. In the first instance, we are acutely aware that experienced councillors have different needs from new councillors - not always, but in most cases. However, we thought that for the first phase of it, we should have both experienced and new councillors together, because obviously the experienced councillors, as I am sure you will agree, would share some of their own experiences with the new councillors.
Secondly, I am not aware that rural councillors were asked to train urban municipal councillors. The fact that you are from a rural municipality obviously does not mean that you are not in a position to assist newly elected councillors in urban municipalities. It does not follow. In fact, many of the experiences in the more challenged municipalities in the rural areas will be of enormous value to those who are in more urban-oriented municipalities. So, I do not buy the view that it necessarily follows. In each case, one has to look at the specific merits and demerits.
The third thing to say is that we will, in fact, have a much more strategic and streamlined process as we go forward. We welcome your views here. You can do it via the committee. We actually also mean to focus specifically on full-time councillors and their more onerous responsibilities and the different training they will have to have.
We are also aware that those who serve on executive committees have a slightly different role from those who are backbencher councillors, as it were. Again, the needs for training differ. However, this is merely the first phase of an ongoing process that will persist until the terms of the current councils lapse. Thank you.