Hon Speaker, the general suggestion being made by the hon member to all parties is that members of parties who may be elected to positions of councillors should first be tested - I don't know how easy that is - to see if they have the skills or not. I think that is quite a tall order with regard to the councillors, because elections are run by parties and parties are supported by and field their members to become councillors. If we are talking about people who get employed, who apply for jobs, that's a different matter.
So, if this is a matter that you want to discuss, you could really open up that discussion in Parliament here for the parties to determine what type of councillors should be fielded. I think that is not an easy matter. It is very easy if you have a job and somebody applies, he or she is interviewed, and you then go through all the questions of whether the person has the skills, etc and you are able to disqualify that person and find the right candidate.
But in so far as the question relates to the elections, where parties have their own members who then become appointed as councillors, that advice should be given to all parties and it would be better if you did that. I am saying that it is not an easy matter, knowing politicians as I do. I'm sure in your own party you know how difficult this is. But I think this is quite a point that you are making. As you said, you are advising all parties. Fine. Advise the parties; they are all here. [Laughter.]