Hon Minister, the concern that Cope has is that we hear of all the interventions and the training but we do not see the impact thereof locally. It is one year after the election and still today there are municipalities where we had protests in recent weeks - and I want to name some of them: They include, among others, Sol Plaatje and Colesberg in the Northern Cape. Why? Because it seems that the councillors do not understand that there is an end to a budget. There is an end to financial expenditure. They are voting excessive salaries for the municipal managers. Then we find, as the hon Deputy President stated, that some municipalities, like Mbhashe, do not have enough income to pay service providers, maintain infrastructure and provide services.