The point I want to make is that when you attack government and say it's too big, as the DA and Cope tend to do, then you must remember that internationally governments are saving economies. Obama, as government, is saving the USA economy.
With regard to the German economy, which is in serious trouble and is a highly industrial economy, with large industries, government is saving that economy.
I have some data here on the size of the UK government sector, but I don't have time to go into it. So, what I'm saying is this, as our Minister dealing with economics talks about the need for government intervention, we don't want to hear cries from the other side that this is some kind of state intervention which is undesirable. It's now international practice and we are going to do it.
If you look at the latest Reserve Bank report ... [Interjections.]