Chairperson, at this level of the highest level Minister ... [Laughter.] ... the issue of debt collection, it is all right to talk about debt collection, but if we have municipalities who are underspending all the time if they have to collect more, are we not going to just increase the level of underspending because they are unable to spend the money they have, even if they are not able to collect? I think the problem is not only the collection of debts; it's the inability to manage funds by municipalities. Thank you.