Mr Speaker, hon member, my belief is that we have in place all measures necessary to stamp out crooked ways of adjudicating over tenders and so on. However, as we know, human beings are difficult animals. There are rules, very simple rules, and life would be easy if we all followed them. You find traffic lights on street corners, yet many fatal accidents happen simply because we do not observe them. So, I will not get into the matter of Mr Julius Malema and tenders and so on, because I suppose it is a matter that is being attended to elsewhere. I'm not familiar with those facts.
It is a moot question whether or not Chancellor House and the stake it holds in the company contracted to construct power stations could lead to, or borders on, sending a negative or wrong message to the public. The reason is simple: As I understand it, once a corporate company is incorporated, it is free to pursue any opportunity. If there is a conflict of interest, then we must say so, and I will be the first one to say there is a conflict of interest here and this matter stinks to high heaven. That is, if there is. I've heard arguments to the effect that even the National Energy Regulator of South Africa, Nersa, determined tariffs ... [Time expired.]