Hon Borman, at this stage, as I've indicated, because of the appeal it is not feasible to quantify the size of the problem. The size of the problem is equal to the case itself and to the judgment. There was an appeal; we are waiting for the outcome.
Of course, we must be warned that if that appeal does not succeed, the ramifications are not just, hon Steyn, for human settlements. They will affect everybody, everyone sitting here, because you would have to pay wherever the poor, or whoever it might be, are occupying land, a house or anything anywhere. If the appeal is not successful, you'll just have to pay rent for those people who cannot afford it. Also, this Blue Mountain Properties is a private company and you will have to pay them too. It means that the Treasury will be fundamentally affected. This matter has very far- reaching implications. We can only pray.