Mr Speaker, I just want to respond to the question or statement made by the hon Greyling on the World Bank loan. I want to say that it is really painful and disappointing to have an hon member of this House indicating publicly that he wrote to the World Bank demanding that they not approve the Eskom loan, primarily because I believe that this high level of unpatriotic behaviour is an indication of the lack of care that we have in parties that are sitting in this House. [Interjections.]
I have never seen this lack of empathy for low-income-level people, our poorest of the poor, who, if we don't get the World Bank loan, will carry the brunt of the tariff, because we'll have to make sure that ... [Interjections.]