Sihlalo ... [Chairperson ...] [Interjections.] ... former Deputy Minister of Defence in the Republic of South Africa. [Laughter.]
Chairperson, I think that we had a fruitful discussion and that members were very constructive. We will even take some of the criticisms which were raised. We'll take some of the criticisms. We would just want to underline one point and make it very clear. The point is that those who say it cannot be done must not obstruct those who are doing it.
Siyenza manje. [We are actually doing now.]
So, we take our cue from that. Most of the confusion which was here was clarified and I am happy.
The issue which I think I need to raise with hon Groenewald is the issue of the arms. I think, hon Groenewald, that we should not romanticise violence. If you talk of farm murders and confine that to farmers when there is a whole host of complex situations in that area which involve people who stay there, workers, and so on, I think it is a bit irresponsible of us to always emphasise that.
I will tell you what the problem is: The problem is not the amnesty we have declared, because, first and foremost, that amnesty was made for law- abiding citizens - those people who missed the earlier deadlines. So there is no way that government wanted to disarm law-abiding citizens. We must get our facts straight on that issue.
The second area which I really wish you would speak about one day is these men and women in blue. See, they are hard at work. You know, in recent weeks they have arrested a lot of people and seized a number of arms caches.
Some of these people arrested advocate a neo-Nazi ideology. Some of them have been commandos or members of the commandos. So, if we are not seen to be saying something about such people who have evil intentions in the country, whatever we say will always be taken with a pinch of salt. So I think that we would have to bear that in mind and be able to balance some of the things because they would help.
As much as I need to underscore the point and thank the communities for their participation, I must say that wherever we go people are happy with the work of the police. They will criticise, yes, but they are saying that they can see what is happening.
Gatsheni, naKwaNongoma siyababala, yebo bajabulile kakhulu. [Uhleko.] [Gatsheni, this includes people of KwaNongoma, and yes they are very excited. [Laughter.]]
So, as I say, issues have been raised here, but there are things I really don't have to stoop to answering. I really don't think I should be expected to answer some things, and I would never, ever answer them.
But, the issue about the war room concept which has been raised is a very fundamental point. It is the hon member, comrade Greg here, who has raised this point. It is a fundamental point in the fight against crime, particularly when we combine fighting crime toughly with fighting it smartly. That's where the war room concept comes from. I hope that what has been shared here is finally shared by all members.
Tshangezi, uyibonile i-war room? [Tshangezi, did you see the war room?]
So, there is a roll-out to other provinces. It is something that has always been here in the Western Cape, particularly under the leadership of Lt Gen Petros, and now under the leadership of the Hawks' Lt Gen Dramat.
So, all the provinces and all the provincial commissioners have been coming here to the Western Cape to share ideas. It is true that we will be able to succeed through a combination of efforts. As we said, together we will fight the frontiers of evil and win the battle against crime.
Those who say it cannot be done should not obstruct those who are doing it. Thank you. [Applause.]