Deputy Speaker, firstly, I just want to know whether the hon member got the information that she is giving from us. It is not as if that R35 000 ... [Interjections.] We actually did the work. Secondly, it is not the department's officials that are involved in this. Yes, we said there could be elements that led to this, for example, fraud.
But there is also the problem of valuation. This is because here in South Africa we don't have a curb on the price of land in terms of valuations, and that is a problem. If we could get a valuation price that says R35 000 per hectare and then go to a farmer who says the price is R4 750 per hectare, that should tell us that there is a problem between the valuation and the farmer, who would not have gained anything between the R4 750 and the R35 000. That then means that there is something wrong here. That is why we are proposing and introducing ... [Interjections.]