Thank you, hon Speaker. I am happy that the hon member acknowledges that we have called an indaba to discuss this issue. In the meantime, there is a Green Paper that is coming, which we will all have time to comment on and help find solutions where we think there are serious problems. Certainly, the proposal that we should have even a bigger indaba, I don't think is a problem, if we all agree there is a need to do so in trying to deal with the issues that affect our provinces and municipalities.
Certainly, we are together in that. I think your being here in Parliament is for the oversight that you are talking about. You are asking questions so that we can look into those matters if they are matters that need to be given attention.
As you have correctly said, there are processes with regard to this, and we must always bear in mind that we are talking about three spheres of government. I hope you are not saying that the Minister must now run provinces, because it is a co-operative governance issue. Provinces have their space within which they must do their work. So, you can't say the Minister must now go to that level because, again, it will be contravening the Constitution. So, we have got to do everything within the context of the Constitution.
I think the Minister has done his work. He has gone there to research and found all the difficulties and challenges. He has been talking about the turnaround strategy precisely because he has discovered what the problems are. I think the Green Paper will be addressing those issues, and ordinary South Africans, MPs and everybody will have an opportunity to participate to help improve the system. Thank you. [Applause.]