Chairperson, arising out of the hon Deputy President's reply, even though the government has adopted a multiphase but fragmented response to deal with the exclusion of the majority of the poor, poverty and inequalities are still endemic and wreaking havoc. Does the Deputy President see the necessity to adopt the use of a standardised system of norms, standards and indicators that can be easily accessed for monitoring and evaluating the inclusivity and impact in a fight against poverty and inequalities? If so, Deputy President, what are the relevant suggestions?