This distrust is reflected in what we see happening in South African communities. It is distressing when one learns that in places such as Khayelitsha and Mpumalanga people are taking the law into their own hands and committing necklace murders because they say they no longer trust the police. [Interjections.]]
So, the community is taking its own decisions, using necklaces to murder alleged criminals. That, hon Minister, can be laid at your door. I've posed a question to you on this matter, but haven't received the answer yet.
Dit gaan hand-uit ruk en ons gaan anargie in Suid-Afrika h. [Tussenwerpsels.]
Ek wil oor plaasmoorde praat. Die regering s altyd hy wil voedselsekerheid h. As Minister van Polisie, watter sekerheid gee u aan die boere oor hul veiligheid op hul plase? [Tussenwerpsels.] Vanaf 2007 wil u nie plaasmoord- statistieke beskikbaar stel nie, hoewel u dit altyd voorheen gedoen het. [Tussenwerpsels.] Hoekom word die statistieke nou skielik teruggehou?
Agb Minister, ek wil vir u vra: Is u bereid om met die VF Plus in gesprek te tree oor plaasveiligheid en plaasmoorde, sodat ons kan gaan kyk daarna en 'n oplossing kry? U gaan nie voedselsekerheid h as u nie sekerheid aan die boere gee oor hul veiligheid nie. [Tussenwerpsels.]
Ek wil ook oor die beheer van vuurwapens praat. [Tussenwerpsels.] Dit is onstellend as die Provinsiale Kommissaris van Gauteng s dat ongeveer 200 000 patrone of rondtes van R5-aanvalsgewere by opleidingskolleges in Gauteng gesteel is. [Tussenwerpsels.] Dit is juis aanvalsgewere wat gebruik word in transito-rooftogte. [Tussenwerpsels.] By winkelsentrums word hierdie tipe wapen deesdae dikwels tydens rooftogte aangewend. U moet nie die publiek daarvoor blameer nie, want die publiek besit nie R5- aanvalsgewere nie. [Tussenwerpsels.] Dit is net die polisie en die SA Nasionale Weermag. Die vingers wys almal na u toe.
Die vraag is: Hoe is dit moontlik dat daar nog steeds ongeveer 27 000 polisielede is wat nie 'n bevoegdheidsertifikaat het om vuurwapens te hanteer nie? [Tussenwerpsels.] U laat mense met vuurwapens in die publiek rondbeweeg, maar u het nie bevoegdheidsertifikate vir hulle nie. [Tussenwerpsels.] As ek dit moet doen, sal ek onmiddellik vir die besit van onwettige vuurwapens gearresteer word. [Tussenwerpsels.] (Translation of Afrikaans paragraphs follows.)
[This is going to get out of hand and we will then have anarchy in South Africa. [Interjections.]
I want to talk about farm murders. The government is always saying it wants to achieve food security. As the Minister of Police, what security do you give the farmers as regards their safety on their farms? [Interjections.] Since 2007 you have not wanted to release statistics on farm murders, though you have always done so in the past. [Interjections.] Why are these statistics now suddenly being held back?
Hon Minister, I want to ask you: Are you prepared to enter into discussion with the FF Plus regarding safety on farms and farm murders, so that we are able to give it some consideration and find a solution? You will not achieve food security if you are unable to secure the safety of farmers. [Interjections.]
I also want to speak about the control of firearms. [Interjections.] It is alarming when the Provincial Commissioner of Gauteng says that approximately 200 000 cartridges or rounds of ammunition for R5 attack rifles were stolen from training colleges in Gauteng. [Interjections.] In fact, it is attack rifles that are used in cash-in-transit heists. [Interjections.] Nowadays, it is this type of weapon that is often used during robberies at shopping malls. You should not blame the public for this, since the public does not own R5 attack rifles. [Interjections.] Only the police and the SA National Defence Force have them. All fingers point to you.
The question is also: How is it possible that there are still approximately 27 000 police members who do not have a competency certificate for handling a firearm? [Interjections.] You allow people with firearms to wander around among the public, but you do not have competency certificates for them. [Interjections.] If I should do that, I would be arrested immediately for possession of illegal firearms. [Interjections.]]