I have just gone with Minister Chabane to Mbekweni in Drakenstein. We went there to present the Government Communication Information System, GCIS, budget focus and what we would be doing. After listening to us, all the people in the hall, having invited the Western Cape government, which sent an apology and didn't go, raised issues of hardships, fundamental issues of corruption, and housing allocation problems. I just wondered: where is this biblical Jerusalem that had been described in the Western Cape? [Interjections.]
Also, just this week, Mayor Patricia de Lille ... [Interjections.]