Thank you, hon member. I take it, hon Van der Merwe, that these issues are supposed to be discussed at the Chief Whips' Forum. You are right. I hope they will be discussed. At times I wonder what the Chief Whips' Forum is discussing, other than making sure that the decorum of this House is maintained and that the House runs smoothly. I think we have a serious challenge if, at times, the people who are disrupting this House are the Chief Whips themselves. I appreciate your input. I think it must be discussed there. Thank you very much. [Interjections.]
And end the never-ending comments. This is by no means an attempt to stifle debate, but I think, hon members, we are really overdoing it. I don't know if all of us sitting here don't see on television the circus that we are in, in this House. I hope all those issues will be addressed.