Voorsitter, ek wil begin deur vir die agb Minister te s dat ek eintlik baie verbaas is dat hy vanoggend so sag behandel word deur die opposisie. Dit lyk vir my die Kaapse weer het hulle aangetas.
Ek wil vir u s, agb Minister, dat die weer my nie aangetas het nie. Ek wil ook nie praat oor 2030 en wensdenkery en alles wat daarmee gepaard gaan nie. Agb Minister, ek wil praat oor nou. Ek wil praat oor die skandalige wyse waarop die belastingbetaler se geld gesteel word en hoe dit dan toegesmeer word. Agb Minister, ek wil spesifiek praat oor Nkandla. U is die departement wat die ondersoek doen. Ek wil nou vir u s dat u skuil agter die argument dat dit 'n nasionale sleutelpunt is en dat u dit daarom nie bekend kan maak nie. Agb Minister, ek sal vir u s wanneer daar 'n sekerheidsbreuk by 'n nasionale sleutelpunt is, wanneer mense toegang verkry sonder dat hulle magtiging het, soos in die Waterkloof-voorval - want nou is almal bewusteloos oor wie magtiging gegee het - is dt 'n sekerheidsbreuk.
Dit is nie 'n sekerheidsbreuk, agb Minister, as u moet bekend maak wie die persone is wat die pryse gelaai het, wat die korrupsie gepleeg het, en die belastingbetaler se geld gesteel het nie. Dit is nie 'n sekerheidsbreuk as hierdie mense vervolg en in die tronk toegesluit word nie. Dit is nie 'n sekerheidsbreuk nie. Ek wil vandag vir die agb Minister s: Minister, as u dit nie bekend maak nie, dan is u aandadig aan korrupsie. U is aandadig daaraan dat mense kan wegkom met die belastingbetaler se geld wat hulle gesteel het.
Ek wil verder gaan, agb Minister. As u dit nie bekend maak nie, dan wil ek vir u s maak dan u die agb president Zuma ook medepligtig aan hierdie wanbesteding en die diefstal van die belastingbetaler se geld. [Tussenwerpsels.] Ek wil vandag vir u s u moet mooi gaan dink oor of u dit aan die belastingbetaler wil bekend maak of nie. Dit is nie u geld nie, agb Minister. Dit is nie die departement se geld nie. Dit is die belastingbetaler se geld, waarvoor hulle hard moet werk om aan hierdie regering te betaal. Dit is dus net billik en regverdig dat die belastingbetalers weet hoe hul belastinggeld bestee word.
Ek wil vir al die agb lede wat hier sit, en die een wat so daar agter teen die kombuis sit en raas ook, s dat dit u taak en u plig is om te verseker dat die belastingbetaler se geld korrek aangewend word om Suid-Afrika te bou, en nie om meer as R200 miljoen vir sekuriteit te betaal nie. Agb Minister, ek s vir u om soveel te betaal vir sekuriteit is snert. Ek weet darem so 'n bietjie van sekerheid af. (Translation of Afrikaans paragraphs follows.)
[Mr P J GROENEWALD: Chairperson, I would like to begin by saying to the hon Minister that I am actually very surprised that he is being treated so gently by the opposition this morning. It seems to me the Cape weather has affected them.
I would like to tell you, hon Minister, that the weather has not affected me. Furthermore, I do not want to talk about 2030 and wishful thinking and everything associated with it. Hon Minister, I want to speak about the present. I want to speak about the disgraceful manner in which the taxpayer's money is being stolen, and the way it is then covered up. Hon Minister, I would like to speak about Nkandla in particular. Your department is doing the investigation. I want to say to you now that you are hiding behind the argument of it being a national key point and that is why you are unable to make it public. Hon Minister, I shall tell you when there is a breach of security at a national key point. When people gain access without authorisation, as is the case with the Waterkloof incident - since everyone is now insensible regarding who gave the authorisation - that is a breach of security.
It is not a breach of security, hon Minister, when you have to disclose who inflated the prices and defrauded and stole taxpayers' money. It is not a breach of security when these people are prosecuted and locked up in prison. That is not a breach of security. I want to say to the hon Minister today: Minister, if you do not make it public, then you are an accessory to corruption. You are implicated by way of the fact that people are able to get away with stealing taxpayers' money.
I would like to go further than this, hon Minister. If you do not make it public, then I would like to say to you that you are then also making the hon President Zuma accessory to this misappropriation and the theft of taxpayers' money. [Interjections.] Today, I would like to say to you that you have to reflect very carefully about whether or not you want to make it public to the taxpayer. It is not your money, hon Minister. It is not the department's money. It is the taxpayers' money for which they have to work hard in order to pay taxes to this government. Therefore, it is only reasonable and fair for taxpayers to know how their taxes are being spent.
To all the hon members sitting here, and also to the one sitting right there at the back against the kitchen, making a noise, I would like to say that it is incumbent upon you to ensure that the taxpayers' money is utilised correctly to build South Africa, and not to pay more than R200 million for security. Hon Minister, I am telling you that paying so much for security is nonsense. After all, I have a little bit of knowledge of security matters.]