It is not for the first time the portfolio committee is hearing about the single Public Service that the Minister has spoken about. The members of the DA have been part of our meetings since they were redeployed by their leader, hon Mazibuko, to this portfolio committee.
The issue of the single Public Service has always been there, even when we had a strategic planning workshop at O R Tambo International Airport in Johannesburg. It was reported and they understood it. Even after that, the department came and explained what it meant by that because the committee had a number of questions. The department came back and continued answering the questions raised by the committee.
The Minister felt that she had to come herself and explain that, but until today, the DA does not know what the single Public Service means. It is clear that they won't know because they do not want to know. However, the department is expected to present the Bill to the portfolio committee no later than June. It is only then that we will look into the nitty-gritty of this Bill around the single Public Service.
You must not pre-empt that this Bill might come this way, because you won't have points to argue at that particular time. That's the ANC. The issue of the single Public Service is a resolution of the ANC. You must know that.
The school of government, which will be launched in October, is a good move, but at the same time there are Sector Education and Training Authorities, Setas, within the Public Service that are responsible for skills development within the Public Service, even if they are departmentally linked.
It is important to start bringing those Setas on board now, working together with the Department of Higher Education and Training. We must find out what problems they have and the impact those problems will have on the programme of the school of government moving forward. This will be done in order not to have a school of government and Setas with different programmes that would clash with each other. I think it will be fine if we are going to approach it that way. [Interjections.] It is an ANC resolution.
With regard to the Human Resource Development Strategic Framework, there are four pillars that I would like mention for the DA, because members of the ANC do know them. Pillar one is the capacity development initiatives; pillar two is the organisational support initiatives; pillar three is governance and institutional development initiatives; and pillar four is initiatives for government's economic growth and development. We are saying these things in order for you to copy what you can do if you want to be like the ANC. It's a dream. In fact, one day it will come true.
Let me assist the Minister so that when she comes, she does not have to deal with everything that was raised here. Let me start with discipline in the Public Service. With regard to discipline, there are procedures, dictated by the Constitution of the Republic, fair justice to workers. That means that you cannot just wake up and dismiss a worker just because, as an employer, you are saying that the worker has committed an offence.
If you want to do that, it must be in line with section 36 of the Constitution, which deals with limitations. Whatever you do must be accommodated in terms of section 36 of the Constitution. If not, then you can't just do as the DA wants the ANC to do. Who will then come up to the DA and say that the ANC government just dismisses workers without even following the procedures and legislation that it put in place. I thought it was important to raise that.
Hon Ramatlakana, in your absence, I think his leader wanted to be the only one debating on the Gupta debate in the House. Because he lost that opportunity, when we were dealing with Budget Vote No 12, Public Service and Administration, he put in Gupta. So, he does not know where Gupta belongs. Wherever he goes, it's Gupta. Even where he is sitting, it's Gupta. Even the water that he is drinking is Gupta. Everything to help him is Gupta. [Interjections.] That's an indication and confirmation of what the ANC's speakers said in the House at 2 o'clock, when they said that the opposition did not want to hear the truth. If what they are saying is not said, it must be said again and again. [Interjections.]
Minister, when you presented your budget, you made mention that ... [Laughter.] [Interjections.] ... as we are here, we came to Parliament through struggles. I was looking at the opposition when you said that. I thought that they would stand up and say no, don't count us, because during the struggle we were not there, because they were not there. I know that the DA was formed after 27 April 1994. Therefore, you were not there during the struggle. You are an organisation that was formed as a result of the democratic breakthrough for which the ANC fought for more than eight years. [Interjections.]