Deputy Speaker, I just want to tell the hon Groenewald that it is very surprising that he said what he said here. I don't think your colleague, who is a member of the portfolio committee, can say that, because this Bill emanated from the International Labour Organisation's convention and your colleague participated in the standard commissions during that ILO conference. Now you come here and say that you don't support this, while your member supported what was said at that ILO conference.
Hon Dudley, firstly, on the issue that was raised by Ms Vanessa Phala, I think it is wrong to come here and say that you have concerns based on the comments by Business Unity SA, because Busa participates in all the structures, such as the National Economic Development and Labour Council and the ILO. The very same Vanessa is a member of organised business and always participates in the ILO conference in the African Regional Labour Administration Centre, Arlac, and even at the Southern African Development Community level. She agrees with everything that we discuss before we go to those conferences, and even after we have come back home. Therefore I think you must sit down with her and tell her not to have a double agenda.
Secondly, I want to highlight for the hon members that when you talk about business vis--vis organised labour, I am not sure which business you are representing because organised business and organised labour also serve in the Human Resource Development Council, which deals with skills development issues and is led by the Deputy President. That is where they identify where there is a lack of skills and come up with strategies on how to work together with government, including the issues of the farmers. The farmers have asked us as the Department of Labour to take them through the labour laws so that they would be able to comply with this legislation. I am not sure whom you are representing because we have agreed with organised business and, in particular, with farmers on these matters.
I want to thank all the political parties who supported this Bill. This is confirmation that the ANC leads and the ANC lives. I thank you. [Applause.]