Voorsitter, die DA kan maar l en gaap en droom, want die ANC gaan regeer! [Chairperson, the DA may lie around yawning and dreaming, because the ANC will govern!] [Interjections.]
Modulasetulo, ANC e thekga Molaokakanywa wo gobane o ganet?a mekgatlo ya dikuranta le dithelebi?ene go laet?a bana t?eo di tla go senya dikgopolo t?a bona. ANC e thekga Molaokakanywa wo gobane ga o dumelele bot?hup?a golola t?a dinaka di hlabane. Gape Molaokakanywa wo o gana t?a bo hlaga swaa re je t?a bo pilo. Molaokakanywa wo o gana t?a bo huwane molapo'a ditaba ba rego ba kwele ba re ba bone. [Legofsi.]
Ke na le kgati?obaka ya molao yeo maina a bao ba bolet?ego mo pele ga lena ba le bot?a ka ga ``constitutionality'' a sego gona ka go yona. Ke kgati?obaka ya bao ba ?omago ka melao ya Molaotheo.
Molasetulo, ANC e a bu?a gomme ebile ga e kgopele tumelelo ya go dira bjalo go motho yo mongwe. ANC ge e kwele gore set?haba se lla ka taba ya gore dilo t?e di amanywago le lepono di se laet?we mmu?ong wa yona, re ka se kgopele tumelelo go Seremane; re ka se kgopele tumelelo go DA gobane ga se seboleledi sa boradikuranta.
Seo ba bego ba swanet?e go le bot?a sona, Modulatulo, ke gore ka 't?at?i leo Komiti ya Photefolio ya t?a Selagae e kwanego le boradikuranta ka t?eo di sa nyakegego gomme gwa be gwa hlongwa khansele yeo e tlago hlokomela gore melao ya maitshwaro a bona e ?ome gabotse, bona ba ile ba ngala ditheri?anong t?a ntshe. Ka fao, seo ba bego ba swanet?e go le bot?a sona mo ke gore ba t?wile ka ditheri?anong t?a komiti.
Morena Greyling, yo le yena a bolet?ego mo, ke t?ea gore ke yo mongwe wa bao ba ngwalelago bangwe t?eo ba swanet?ego go di bolela dingangi?anong t?a Ntlo ye. Le ka 't?at?i la mohlolo ga se ka ke ka bona a tlile komiting ya rena go tla go ikwela ka t?a gagwe gore kgoro e sekaseka bothata bjo bja lepono la bana bjang.
Modulasetulo, mohlomphegi Sandy o bolet?e mo gore Molaokakanywa wo ka mokgwa wo re o boilego re le ANC o mo gopot?a melao yela ya go bewa mehleng ya apartheid. Seo se makat?ago ke gore dikonokono t?a DA lehono ke batho ba go t?wa go apartheid. O dulelang le bona ge e ba o a rere?a gore ga a kwane le apartheid?
ANC e thekga Molaokakanywa wo gobane "manyala" ga re a tsome. Di ile le mu?i wa dikwekwele. Ke a leboga, Modulasetulo. [Legofsi.] (Translation of Sepedi paragraphs follows.)
[Mr K W MORWAMOCHE: Chairperson, the ANC supports this Bill because it prevents the media from exposing children to images that would adversely affect them. The ANC supports this Bill because it does not allow powerful people to fight at the expense of powerless ones. This Bill also does not allow people to gain at others' expense. The Bill is against people who act without knowledge of the issue in question. [Applause.]
I have a document in which names of those who addressed you, telling you about constitutionality, do not appear. This is a document of people dealing with constitutional rules and regulations.
Chairperson, the ANC rules and it does not require permission from anyone to do that. If the public demands that pornographic programmes not be broadcast in the country, we will never ask for permission from Seremane, we will never ask for permission from the DA because they are not spokespersons for the media.
What they should have told you, Chairperson, is that when the Portfolio Committee on Home Affairs agreed with the media people about things that must be censored and an authority to monitor their code of conduct was established, they withdrew from those negotiations. Therefore, they were supposed to tell you that they withdrew from the committee's negotiations. I believe that Mr Greyling, who also spoke here today, is one of the people who prepares speeches on behalf of other speakers for debates in this House. I have never seen him on a single day in our committee meetings to hear how the department is dealing with this issue of child pornography. Chairperson, the hon Sandy said that the manner in which this Bill was presented by the ANC, reminds her of the laws of the apartheid era. What is surprising is that the powerful DA members today are from the apartheid era. Why is she seated on their side if indeed she is anti-apartheid? The ANC support this Bill because we do not want immoral acts. That is all. I thank you, Chairperson. [Applause.]]
The HOUSE CHAIRPERSON (Ms C-S Botha): Hon Minister, members, before I call the hon Minister to address us, I would just like to indicate that on account of discussions I have had with the Table, I am going to consult Hansard on the issue raised by the two Ministers and will come back to you in this House on it. Please, the two Ministers who raised points of orders, the Minister of Education and the Minister of Housing. Thank you.