13. The Committees note that while sentenced children and juveniles take part in education, sport and developmental programmes in Pollsmoor, awaiting-trial children and juveniles are not allowed to take part. This is apparently because the latter category "fall under justice, not correctional services". The Committees are clear that this "silo" approach is not acceptable and inconsistent with the notion of an integrated justice system, and feel that all children and juveniles, both those sentenced and those awaiting-trial, should be allowed to take part in the above-mentioned programmes. Some of the awaiting- trial juveniles have been awaiting trial for long periods, some as long as three years.