Modulasetulo, Ditona, a re thuseng ntate Le Roux pele ka gore fa a ne a eme fa, o tlhagisitse sengwe se se leng mo moleng, se re santseng re tla go buisana ka sone mo nakong e e tlang. Kgang e, e ka ga kgololosego ya kamano le manno a mekgatlho. (Translation of Setswana paragraph follows.)
[Mr A L MOSEKI: Chairperson, Ministers, can we first try to help Mr Le Roux because when he was standing here, he presented something that is still in the pipeline; that which we still have to discuss next time. This issue concerns freedom of association and the seating of parties.]
Let's tell him that the ANC has its own cadres who fully understand that seats in this Parliament do not belong to the cadres, but to the ANC. That must be clear in his mind.
Sabobedi ke gore ntate Worth o dira phoso ya go se batle go ithuta. Go botlhokwa mo tsamaisong e ya temokerasi gore re ithute, re tlhaloganye gore temokerasi e dira jang. (Translation of Setswana paragraph follows.)
[Secondly, Mr Worth is wrong by not being willing to learn. It is important, in the advancing of this democracy, that we learn and understand how it works.]
This government is the government of the people, by the people and for the people. This government has a responsibility to ensure that the public participate in the lawmaking of this country. Many of those people we are talking about are the poor communities in the rural areas. Therefore, this government has a responsibility to bring those people to the venue where public hearings will take place so that they can air their views. That must be clear to the hon member.
Today we are dealing with the Scorpions issue, the Directorate of Special Operations, DSO. Why did government establish this unit? A few years ago this government of the people, by the people and for the people identified crime in this country; not just ordinary crime, but organised crime which is not only committed by local criminal masters, but also by international criminal masters. The overall objective of establishing the Scorpions was to ensure the fight against criminals.
The question is: Have the Scorpions been able to deal with organised crime as expected? People say the Scorpions have succeeded. I was listening to the public addressing the committee. The public understands that the Scorpions' objective was to fight organised crime like bank robberies, the cash-in-transit robbers, drug lords - those that bring drugs from abroad into South Africa and distribute them in the learning institutions of our country and other important institutions, etc. Have the Scorpions succeeded in dealing with these criminals?
HON MEMBERS: No!