Hon House Chair, I said the following in the previous speech when hon Jackson Mthembu was not in the House. It is because of the statements like hon Mthembu made like in 1997 when he said in defending the purchase of BMWs for his provincial departments when he said, I am leader in my community do you expect me and do you expect me to drive a 1600. People out there are suffering because of that type of attitude that was going on and is going on for 25 years.