However, in our case hon members, Eskom in some ways and the kind of dilemmas if faces and the crises it has presented us with currently encapsulates the challenge of where a developmental state institution can go wrong. This was an excellent 95-year-old institution that for the majority of its lifespan was extremely well run, well into the mid-2000s. As a result of the damage cost that many speakers have already referred to, of state capture, Eskom's pride and capacity has been undermined.