The next area is the interest on General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade, GATT and the R23 billion the Minister of Finance set aside yesterday, begins to make a contribution, as the Chairperson of the Board of Eskom said, to cutting down Eskom's burden as far as payment for the debt is concerned and begins to help them to generate or use some the cash as a result of this assistance they are getting from government, for better purposes within the organisation and its transition through the structural changes that have to take place as well.