The next point is there is; if you like a turnaround plan as far as Eskom itself is concerned. The first element is what the President has announced and that is the creation of the three entities and in the first instance, which is articulated very clearly in this annexure to the budget review that was published yesterday and that is the creation of the transmission entity, so that we now begin the separation process of the three entities that will constitute Eskom of the future, of course in that process we have to ensure that as we progress we consult labour and we consult as I will point out in the moment, all important stakeholders that have some connection with Eskom in one way or the other.