The very interesting thing is, contrary to the hon Mr Maynier's claims that the reason the PIC does not want to release its investments in unlisted companies is that there is corruption, when the statistics were released, when the information was released, both in a closed meeting and in an open meeting, what did we find? We found that the PIC is doing the very things, for the most part - as wrong as some of the things are - as we have as the list of guidelines. Not criteria, but guidelines that must be taken into account.