Let us talk about the state-owned enterprises. The NFP will not support the privatisation of Eskom or SA Airways, SAA, contrary to what my friends here want. Let us tell you what ... I think this is what I would like to hear you say in the 10 minutes you have today: You need to explain to us why it is that - and I have asked this before - when it is a private entity, it will make profits, but when it is a state-owned entity,