We can not continue to look to the National Revenue Fund to be the answer to all problems. The Auditor-General needs to be self sustaining. The way the auditors obtain their fees is to charge for them. The briefing we receive from National Treasury essentially states that all avenues were explored to recover audit fees. This is simple not true. With all due respect, having a chat with someone about life, love and the universe is not a realistic way to extract maximum debt payments.