Thank you ma'am, thank you ma'am.
Hon Speaker, one of the stalwarts of your organization, two weeks ago, interacted with the former secretary-general of your party, the hon Mantashe, now the Minister of Mineral Resources. And she said the following about minorities "I never thought the day would come where I will be known as a minority."
He said to me, he jumped up, don't worry about that I say that is what you say, but what are you as a leader doing to rank and
file, she sat in her office and say I'm not a minority; but outside and within the ANC I, Sophie de Bryun, experience what's it to be a minority. That's the reality in South Africa.
Now, hon Speaker, my question. In the last question you indicated quite clearly that you are open for discussions with regard to the Ngonyama Trust, all the different issues. Are you