Was that the question? [Laughter.] So I was the leader of the state capture project. It's very nice. Well, I guess one should be quite direct in answering the question because the hon member is hallucinating a little bit. In indirect answer I think what we have been observing with what have been happening at Eskom is that we have been dealing with a really deep-rooted problem
of corruption and state capture. In my own sense is that if there was an entity of government that was totally and completely captured, it was Eskom. It was easy to capture because they were able to see how big it is. It is the biggest corporation in our country that generates revenue that is far above many other companies in our country. Once they set their eyes on Eskom as a target they went in with a great deal of effectiveness. Quite a lot of what was happening there was hidden and it is only coming to light now through the various commissions that are now under way.
Even as we had the war room we could see there were challenges and they seem to be more technical as well as well as financial. But it had to take a lot of digging to in the end finally find that some of the suppliers were overpaid. Quite a lot of money was being siphoned out without even invoicing and all that.
Let us pay tribute where tribute is due. Let us pay tribute to the work that the various commissions are doing to phantom exactly what has happened in Eskom. In the end Eskom will be completely repositioned because much of what we have been doing over this time was to seek to reposition it.
It is very easy to point fingers and to find people who are to blame. My own approach is that let us all work together to try to reposition Eskom. Eskom is too big to fail and it is far too important to fail and it is far important to do finger pointing.
What we now need to do is to reposition Eskom and look at the restructuring that is ongoing. What I outlined here is something that we should all applaud and say we can now see the light of day, we can see that something is being done. We are going to appoint a CEO, we are going to appoint add and argument to the board, we are going to deal with the debt. We are dealing now with the operation aspects, the technical aspects. We are working hard to complete the two power stations. And we also have to deal with the challenge of nonpayment. A combination of all these give rise to a challenge that all of us should face up to and address with a view of finding solutions. If ever there was a time, this is not time for finger pointing. This is time of trying to bring good ideas together to solve the problem. Thank you very much, Chairperson. [Applause.]
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