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  • PROCEEDINGS OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY (Tuesday, 29 October 2019)

CONSIDERATION OF BUDGETARY REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION REPORT OF PORTFOLIO COMMITTEE ON POLICE ON 2018/19 ANNUAL REPORT OF PRIVATE SECURITY INDUSTRY REGULATORY AUTHORITY (PSIRA)

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  • (narrative) 29 Oct 2019 hansard
    The Deputy Chief Whip of the Majority Party moved: That the Reports be adopted.
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  • Deputy Speaker hansard

    Members, any declarations?

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    Mrs N W A Mazzone hansard

    Deputy Speaker, the DA would like to declare please.

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  • Deputy Speaker hansard

    Go ahead, hon member of the DA.

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    Mrs N W A Mazzone hansard

    Deputy Speaker, may I just have some clarity. When originally the police report was brought to us, we understood that it would be done together, in one report. Can I just have clarity from the ANC's Deputy Chief Whip if that is it still the case or are we now going ahead with a separate items.

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  • Deputy Speaker hansard

    Hon members, what is presented before us is a separate thing so we will proceed with it separately. Whatever your agreement were, you haven't communicated to the Chair. So the Order goes according to the dummy in front of me.

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  • Deputy Chief Whip Of The Majority Party hansard

    Hon Deputy

    Speaker, I am advised that the agreement was that the reports will go together.

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  • Deputy Speaker hansard

    Why was it not communicated to us? [interjections.]

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  • Dr M Q Ndlozi hansard

    Deputy Speaker, we would like to confirm that; that is the agreement which is being communicated to you now. So we must proceed.

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  • Deputy Speaker hansard

    Hon member, we proceed ... [Interjections.]

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  • Dr M Q Ndlozi hansard

    We would like to confirm that; that was the agreement which is now being communicated to you.

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  • Deputy Speaker hansard

    Now, hon members ... [Interjections.]

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  • Dr M Q Ndlozi hansard

    Can we proceed as agreed?

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  • Deputy Speaker hansard

    No, hon members, you don't work like that. You communicate with the Chair and you put it in the guidance that is given to us. So you can't make decisions and not communicate with us. No! No! No! You can't make decisions and not communicate to us. [Interjections.]

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  • Deputy Chief Whip Of The Majority Party hansard

    Hon Deputy

    Speaker, I just want to apologise to the House because we were also not informed. We just got that now. Thank you.

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  • Deputy Speaker hansard

    Hon Deputy Chief Whip, I want to restate that it makes sense to do it from three to six. So, is it how you were all prepared for?

    HON MEMBERS: Yes!

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    Mr S N Swart hansard

    Deputy Speaker!

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  • Deputy Speaker hansard

    What are you objecting to, hon Swart?

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    Mr S N Swart hansard

    Deputy Speaker, we are unaware that there are separate issues and we have prepared to make the declarations separately. [Interjections.] I was the whips' meeting and this was not discussed.

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  • Deputy Speaker hansard

    Who else, other than you, is also not ready to deal with them together?

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    Mr S N Swart hansard

    We are ready to deal with them separately.

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  • Deputy Speaker hansard

    No, hang on. I am asking a different question, sir. I want to know who else is like you. [Laughter.] [Interjections.] Look at them. They are three, four, five, and six. Do you want to declare separately on them?

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    Mr X Ngwezi hansard

    Hon Deputy Speaker, our view as the IFP was that, we would want to declare them together. But when we consulted, they then said we would have to debate them separately which we then prepared. I just came now to confirm with the gentleman who was there at the Table. [Interjections.]

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  • Deputy Speaker hansard

    Okay. Hon members, I am requesting you that we agree to deal with them together. [Applause.] I must express my support to you Mr Ngwezi as you stand there and what you are saying, except to plead with you that you must be combat-ready, as they say somewhere else where I come from. I know you are capable of being combat-ready.

    Can we do that so that we are able to manage those four? It will not prevent any substantive management of those

    issues at their appropriate time. So I recommend that we go ahead with that. Go ahead, hon member. Let's first read all of them together, before you proceed, sir. Take your seat. Please read them as the procedure requires us to do.

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