Deputy Speaker, the Portfolio Committee on Home Affairs met on 24 February 2015 to consider the request to the National Assembly by the Chief Justice of the Republic of South Africa to nominate a suitable candidate to fill a vacancy in the Electoral Commission. The vacancy had arisen due to the resignation of Adv Pansy Tlakula at the end of September 2014. That request was referred to the committee by the Speaker on 25 November 2014 for consideration and report.
The letter dated 21 November 2014 from the Chief Justice of the Republic of South Africa, hon Chief Justice Mogoeng Mogoeng, submitted to the National Assembly a list of recommended candidates for the filling of the vacancy in the Electoral Commission.
The committee deliberated on the names recommended extensively. After these deliberations it was clear that there was no agreement on one name for recommendation to this House. Between the two names, Mr Vuma Mashinini and Ms Janet Love, the majority of committee members supported Mr Vuma Glenton Mashinini for recommendation to this House for the filling of the vacancy in the Independent Electoral Commission.
The following are facts about Mr Vuma Glenton Mashinini noted by the panel led by the Chief Justice:
Mr Vuma Glenton Mashinini is the former Deputy Chief Electoral Officer of the Electoral Commission during the period 1998 to 2001. During his tenure he was instrumental in the establishment of key systems in the Electoral Commission. He has valuable institutional memory, which will assist him in dealing with any challenges that the commission will be faced with. He is a strong administrator and has a wealth of knowledge and experience in electoral matters, which is borne out by his successful implementation of the e-voting system in Nigeria. He has assisted in the running of free and fair elections in countries like the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Mozambique, Swaziland and Angola.
Those are the facts that are contained in the report of the Chief Justice.
Given the fact that we are filling a full-time vacancy and preparations for the 2016 local government elections are under way, we need a commissioner who will hit the ground running. Mr Mashinini is seen as an appropriate person for this post, as he is available and prefers to serve on a full- time basis. The panel of the Chief Justice had this to say of Mr Mashinini, and I quote:
He will be an excellent commissioner of the electoral commission.
I therefore present our report and request the House to agree to it. I thank you. [Applause.]
There was no debate.
Deputy Speaker.
What are you rising on, hon member?
It is just to let you know that we would like to make a declaration on the matter.
Okay. Yes, hon member.
Hon Deputy Speaker, we would like your direction and advice. We were part of the committee and in our conversations there we could not find one another on the name that was proposed. I would like to persuade the ruling party and the House that the matter must actually go back to the committee ... [Interjections.] ... because of the recent developments in the IEC, which have meant that there are no longer women representatives. We need to go back and look again at all those names that we were given in the interests of a gender balance in the commission. It is a persuasion, with your direction, hon Deputy Speaker ...
Let me respond to you, sir.
... so that we can at least find one other and build consensus. This name is going to divide us in a huge way, and it will dent the integrity of the IEC once more.
Hon member, take your seat. Hon members, we are now at the stage where we should indicate yea or nay, and a declaration has been called for. The process now suggested should have happened before the matter came before the House. We can't change the matter at this stage.
Will those who would like to make declarations please proceed?
Declarations of vote:
Deputy Speaker, the DA vehemently opposes this report and its recommendation to appoint Vuma Glenton Mashinini, a known ally of and personal adviser to President Jacob Zuma, as one of the IEC commissioners.
At last week's Home Affairs Portfolio Committee meeting the ANC used its majority to bulldoze Mashinini's candidacy through the review process. [Interjections.] Mashinini's close relationship with the President presents a clear conflict of interest that renders him unsuitable to hold office in a Chapter 9 institution charged with the carrying out of free and fair elections and remaining politically independent.
Deputy Speaker, the ideal candidate is one who is independent and commands the respect of all political parties in this House, and not just the ANC. [Applause.]
Let us examine for a minute what his CV says about his independence. According to his CV, he was actively involved with the ANC abroad; he was actively involved in the ANC's political campaigns; he participated in the ANC alliance delegations; and he was an ANC provincial organiser, as well as an ANC spokesperson. [Applause.]
I ask you, Deputy Speaker: Is this an ANC that bothers about democracy in South Africa, or about protecting their President?
The IEC is one of South Africa's constitutional cornerstones and Mashinini's recommendation flies directly in the face of the institution's principles. [Interjections.]
It is also worth noting that currently the board is all male, and the ANC, which would prefer to protect the President rather than our democratic institutions, dismissed a string of suitable and impartial female candidates that would have brought much needed skills, experience and gender equity to the board. [Interjections.]
The chairpersonship of this institution must be held by someone who is beyond reproach and capable of fairly and effectively running an organisation that manages multimillion rand budgets and the electoral credibility of our country.
The DA does not believe that Mr Mashinini is a suitable candidate and strongly urges this House not to support this recommendation. I thank you. [Applause.]
Deputy Speaker, at the committee level we rejected the appointment of President Zuma's adviser. We are saying that this is a political appointment. It is clear daylight robbery.
The EFF is a Marxist-Leninist Fanonian organisation, whose ideology is very clear on gender issues. [Interjections.] The former IEC chairperson was a woman. She can't be replaced by a man and the EFF be expected to sell the gender struggle, while we have capable women in our land. It can't be - not in our name.
The only remaining woman commissioner, Ms Taljaard, has resigned from the IEC. That must tell you that something is wrong in the IEC. There is no woman left in the IEC at the moment. It is not in the best interests of the gender struggle to have a male replacing a woman. It is an insult, in short.
It is also not in the best interests of free and fair elections for such a body to be led by a person with a close and intimate relationship with the president of the ruling party, which wants to cling to power, no matter what. The EFF rejects this. Forward with the gender struggle! [Applause.]
Deputy Speaker, the IFP would like to state that we received the eight CVs which were referred to us by the Chief Justice. The ANC moved that Mr Glen Mashinini be appointed. He has a CV which shows the extensive work that he has done in South Africa, as well as in other countries. It was a beautiful CV.
However, an individual who moves into the position of electoral commissioner needs to be a person who is nonpartisan and who is not actually a person that has been ... [Interjections.] He or she is moving into an independent function. This is a person ... [Interjections.] Of course, everything that I am stating was stated in the CV, so you just need to read that CV. [Interjections.]
Deputy Speaker.
I would like to state ...
Hon member, please take your seat.
Deputy Speaker, standing where I am, I cannot hear my own member speaking from the podium. [Interjections.] I can't hear my own member speaking from there. Can you ask the House to ... [Interjections.]
Hon members, please allow hon Mpontshane to hear the member. [Interjections.] Order, hon members!
Thank you very much, Deputy Speaker. It is also extremely worrying that the issue of the gender component was not expressed in a way that we were all comfortable with in our committee. This was also rushed - the whole matter was actually rushed.
Of course, we know that the ANC will vote Mr Mashinini in, but we are warning ourselves, as well as the country, that as that person has been working in the Presidency, and as the person is not an independent person, it will always look like he is a political deployee. Thank you, Deputy Speaker. [Applause.]
Agb Adjunkspeaker, as ek na die agb lede van die ANC kyk wanneer die kwalifikasies van die benoemde uitgelees word, dan lyk hulle soos 'n juigkommando.
Ek wil vir u s u mag dalk 'n juigkommando wees, maar u doen die demokrasie van Suid-Afrika 'n onreg aan. Die hoof van die verkiesingskommissie moet 'n man of 'n vrou wees wat bo verdenking is, want slegs 'n persoon wat bo verdenking is, sal kan s of die basiese beginsels van demokrasie - waar die kieser vertroue in die verkiesingsproses sal h - wel bo verdenking is.
Dit is nie wat hier gebeur nie. Hier word 'n persoon aangestel wat nie bo verdenking is nie. In Potchefstroom het ons gesien dat die verkiesingskommissie se amptenare eintlik bedrog gepleeg het en dat daar hof toe gegaan moet word om dit reg te stel.
Ek wil vandag vir u s dat die ANC die demokrasie van Suid-Afrika met hierdie aanstelling geen guns doen nie, en die VF Plus sal dit nie ondersteun nie. [Applous.] (Translation of Afrikaans speech follows.)
[Dr P J GROENEWALD: Hon Deputy Speaker, looking at the hon members of the ANC while the qualifications of the nominee are being read out, they resemble a claque.
I can tell you that you may well be a claque, but you are doing an injustice to the democracy of South Africa. The head of the electoral commission should be a man or woman who is beyond reproach, because only a person who is beyond reproach can tell if the principles of democracy - where the voter will have faith in the electoral process - are indeed beyond reproach.
This is not what is taking place here. A person is being appointed who is not beyond reproach. In Potchefstroom we saw how the electoral commission's officials actually committed fraud and that the courts will have to be approached in order to set things right.
I am telling you today that the ANC is not doing the democracy of South Africa any favours with this appointment, and the FF Plus will not be supporting it. [Applause.]]
Deputy Speaker, Cope cannot support the appointment of the President's personal adviser to the position of commissioner in the Independent Electoral Commission. As far as the IEC is concerned, we require free and fair elections in this country and we need an impeccable person to ensure that. So we cannot support it. I thank you.
Hon Deputy Speaker, comrades and friends, we here today declare once more as the ANC that the South African colonial experience was based on the intersection of class, race and gender relations ... [Interjections.] These distinctive social and biological features have been used in human history to exclude the press and stifle the progress of individuals and communities.
The struggle against colonialism of a special type sought to eliminate most of these manifestations of unequal social relations. It is documented throughout the principles and policies of the ANC - a gender question - how passionate we are in ensuring that we transform this society. [Applause.]
Those of us who today have chosen to be Marxists fail to understand a few things, and that the ANC chose one thing and one thing only.
Sikhethe ukwenza Ubuntu, ukuthanda isizwe, umanyano ngoba asinamona singenanzondo. Xa sisithi siza kuthatha umhlaba siwubuyisele kubantu abamnyama, asenziwa kukubamonela abelungu abangabanini bawo nababewuthathe ngendlela engafanelekanga. Ngelishwa ke umbutho we-EFF ukhethe ukuzenza oongqondo-ngqondo bento yonke. (Translation of isiXhosa paragraph follows.)
[We chose to practice Ubuntu, to love the nation; unity because we are not jealous and we do not bear a grudge. When we say we are going to give the land back to black people, it is not because we are jealous of white people who are now owners of the land they took illegally. It is so unfortunate that the EFF chose to regard themselves as Jacks of all trades.]
Nevertheless, incumbent on the distinctive figure ... [Iterjections.]
Deputy Speaker, I really don't think that we should be abused in this House.
What's happening, hon member?
Declarations are being made on whether we should appoint a deployee of the ANC or not. [Interjections.] The hon member there is not speaking about what we are talking about, but he is talking about something else.
Take your seat.
Can we please not be diverted from what we are busy with? [Interjections.]
Take your seat, hon member. I will address it.
We sympathise but we should really not be abused like that. [Interjections.] Eish!
Take your seat, hon member. Take your seat, hon member. Conclude your comments, sir.
Hon Deputy Speaker, the ANC, without any fear ...
... siqesha uMashinini. Siyaqhuba. [... we are employing Mashinini. We are moving forward.]
We are leading the country. [Interjections.] We are not sharing power with the DA and the EFF. The fact is that they have a passionate hatred of President Zuma, but we are not going to entertain that.
Siza kubeka uMashinini bethanda bengathandi. [Kwaqhwatywa.] Siza kufane sinimamele nangona nisichithela ixesha, kodwa ukuba niyaqhubeka nisiqhela, siza kunibetha emzimbeni ngoku. [Kwahlekwa.] (Translation of isiXhosa paragraph follows.)
[We are going to appoint Mashinini whether they like it or not. [Applause.] We are going to give you the platform even though you are just wasting our time, but if you continue disrespecting us, we are going to hit you physically now. [Laughter.]]
Deputy Speaker.
Yes, hon member. [Interjections.]
Utata lo uthethayo ndicela arhoxise amazwi akhe. Akanakho ukuthi siyaqhubeka, siyamqhela kwaye baza kusibetha emzimbeni. Nathi siyasiva isiXhosa. Makarhoxise oko agqiba ukukuthetha kwaye acele uxolo. Asimqheli, yiNdlu le. (Translation of isiXhosa paragraph follows.)
[Ms N V NQWENISO: I'm asking the gentleman to withdraw his words. He cannot say that if we continue disrespecting him, they are going to hit us physically. We also do understand isiXhosa. He must withdraw what he just said and apologise. We are not disrespecting him, this is the House.]
Hon member, please withdraw those words. [Interjections.]
Makandixelele ukuba ukuqhela kuthetha ukuthini ngesiXhosa. [She must tell me what the meaning of "ukuqhela" is in isiXhosa.]
Hon member ...
... le nto yokuthi abantu uza kubabetha emzimbeni ayifanelekanga, yirhoxise. [... to say that you are going to hit people physically is wrong, withdraw it.]
Deputy Speaker, I will withdraw it because ...
... kuba ndithatha ukuba isiXhosa akasazi. [... I assumed that she did not know isiXhosa.]
Deputy Speaker, a proposal was put on the table here, noting that all political parties are objecting to the appointment of this person as an electoral commissioner ... [Interjections.] ... who is supposed to preside over elections for all of us on an equal platform. Can we appeal to you and the ruling party to develop some sense of wisdom and know that you can't impose an electoral commissioner on all of us? [Interjections.]
Hon member. Hon member, can I remind you ...
We don't have a problem with a variety of other people that have been proposed, but we can't do it through a vote, because we are going to vote now. [Interjections.]
Hon Shivambu!
Deputy Speaker.
You can't impose an electoral commissioner ...
Hon Shivambu!
As what is he speaking now?
... on ... [Inaudible.] ... please.
What is he speaking as?
Hon member, please do not speak before I recognise you. Hon member from the NFP, what are you rising on, sir?
Hon Deputy Speaker, I had my hand up long ago. I want to say that we don't doubt that Mr Mashinini has impeccable credentials ...
Hon member, did your party make a declaration?
Yes.
If your party has made a declaration, what are you rising on, hon member?
I'm starting now.
Oh, you haven't. All right.
I'm saying that the IEC is a critical entity. Before, a woman was there as the chairperson, and for the sake of gender the NFP would say that we need a woman IEC chairperson. So, we object to Mr Mashinini's becoming the chairperson. [Interjections.]
Hon members, the House ... [Interjections.] What are you rising on, sir?
Hon Deputy Speaker ... [Interjections.] ... I want to go on record as saying that Agang SA does not support this appointment. [Interjections.]
Deputy Speaker, as the question has not been put before the House as yet, the DA, given the views that have been expressed in the House today and the obvious importance of this position and how we fill it, would like to formally move:
That the matter be referred back to the committee for them to reconsider it. [Interjections.]
We move a reference back to the committee. [Interjections.]
Hon members, the Chief Whip of the Opposition has moved a reference back. Is there anybody ... [Interjections.] Hon Chief Whip of the Majority Party?
Hon Deputy Speaker, they can't have their cake and eat it. They participated in declarations opposing this. It's not the first time we have differed, and we will continue to differ. That is why we have the majority and the majority must prevail. It's a democratic process. [Applause.]
Hon Deputy Speaker, we want to address ourselves to the proposal that it must be referred back. I would like to say to the Chief Whip of the Majority Party that of the eight candidates whose names were forwarded to the committee ... [Interjections.]
Hon member, you can't go back to the debate, please.
I'm not going back to the debate, Deputy Speaker. Just give me a chance. [Interjections.] I'm saying that there are other capable candidates upon whom we can find consensus.
Hon member! Hon member!
Deputy Speaker, I have a point of order.
What is your point of order, hon Chief Whip?
Deputy Speaker, they had an opportunity to make declarations. Now, you're giving them a second chance at declarations.
No, I'm addressing myself to the new proposal.
Hon Chief Whip, you interrupted me while I was talking to him about the matter. Hon member, you can't go back to the debate. The opportunity to move that this be referred back has been objected to. We are now putting the question to the House. All those in favour will say, "Aye" ... [Interjections.]
HON MEMBERS: Aye!
Deputy Speaker, I moved a motion for reference back. I believe it's apposite for you to put that to the House. I mean, we have heard that the Chief Whip of the Majority Party has opposed the reference back but, respectfully, I would say to you that the reference back has been moved and it should be put to the House. The House can decide. You have not put the official question yet, hon Deputy Speaker.
All right. Hon members, the Chief Whip of the Majority Party has opposed it. Let me put it to the House. Those who agree to the reference back must say yes.
HON MEMBERS: Yes!
Those who do not agree must say no.
HON MEMBERS: No!
The noes have it. The motion to refer this back has been rejected.
Question put: That the nomination of Mr Vuma Glenton Mashinini to serve on the Electoral Commission be approved.
Deputy Speaker, the DA calls for a division. [Applause.]
Hon members, a division having been called for, the bells will be rung for three minutes. [Interjections.]
During division:
Wait! Who is keeping the time? It is supposed to be three minutes. We have gone beyond three minutes now.
Hon members, the question that we must decide on is this. Yes, hon Minister. What are you rising on?
Deputy Speaker, on a point of order: Before you proceed, I would like to ask that you indicate to us in terms of which Rule this matter that we are now dividing on has been tabled.
There is no provision for a referral or whatever the member referred to it as. There is provision for a motion which is written and presented prior to noon as a motion to be debated.
Also, if a motion is put and it is requested that a decision be made on the day on which it is put, there must be concurrence of the entire House that we should debate that matter or divide on it. I do not recall concurrence being sought, so I am not sure in terms of what Rule we are proceeding now. Could we please be guided by you?
Hon members, the Rule that might otherwise have allowed this matter to proceed is section 97, "Motions without notice". I must point out that the situation changes because of the language used by the Chief Whip to request us to refer the matter back.
Let's go to (c). Skip the first two. I quote:
Every motion requires notice, except a motion-
(c) for the postponement or discharge of, or giving precedence to, an order of the day;
Then there is "referring a Bill to a committee" in (d). This section refers to a Bill and we do not have a Bill. Moreover, the Chief Whip did not ask for postponement. He asked us to refer this back.
So, in both of them you could interpret it differently. As far as postponement or discharge is concerned, if I were to allow it, hon Minister, it would be on the basis of postponement. That would be the only reason, if I were to allow it. The referral, or postponement, is one way of doing it and that would be the basis on which we would allow it. [Applause.]
Hon Deputy Speaker.
Yes.
Hon Deputy Speaker, can I ask you a question?
Ask your question.
Are you confused or not? [Laughter.]
Hon member, I have been asked a question and we always consult, literally in public, in front of your eyes. I want to suggest that in asking that question you are confused.
Hon members, the member has not offered a reformulation of this matter so that the language fits with the Rules as stated here. Therefore, we are going to do what we indicated earlier on - put the question regarding the matter before the House. So, hon Chief Whip of the Opposition, that is the decision that we have made now. [Interjections.]
That matter was dealt with earlier on and was not accepted. So, the question we are going to be putting to the House now is the original matter before the House. [Interjections.]
Hon Deputy Speaker ...
Yes, go ahead. Go ahead.
Obviously, the red phone from Luthuli House has been ringing off the hook. [Interjections.] If that is the case, I will then, in terms of Rule 76, request you to postpone this decision.
Hon member, what about Rule 76?
Deputy Speaker, Rule 76 gives you the power to postpone this decision.
I want to say that the important point is that we are not, you know, filling a vacancy in the Tiddlywinks Committee here. This is a commissioner of the IEC, and it should be somebody who has broad appeal across all political parties. We are going to undermine the credibility of that person if we proceed in this House in the way we have done today.
Hon member, why do you refer me to Rule 76 when I have given you my opinion? [Interjections.]
Deputy Speaker, I am respecting your ...
Point of order!
Yes.
Can I finish?
Point of order! Point of order!
You can't take a point of order on a point of order.
Point of order! [Interjections.]
Hon members, can you take your seats? I am speaking to the Chief Whip of the Opposition here. [Interjections.]
Deputy Speaker, I am respecting the ruling that you made earlier about the reference back. However, I am saying to you that in terms of Rule 76 you are empowered to postpone this decision, once this debate has been concluded. [Interjections.]
Yes.
And I am asking you to please, given the seriousness of the matter and the very partisan manner in which it has been dealt with, postpone this decision for further engagement as political parties.
Hon member, you are delegating to me a decision that the House has effectively already made here. [Interjections.] No, let me explain to you. Hon member, the reason why we give each of you the opportunity to make a declaration is that we then hear what your view on the matter is, and you have expressed your views on that matter. I put it to the House to indicate its views on the matter of reference.
Deputy Speaker.
Hon Shivambu, what are you rising on?
Deputy Speaker, a very sincere request is being made. All political parties, except the ruling party, are objecting to the appointment of this person as an electoral commissioner. We are saying we should utilise the Rules to postpone this question and try to build consensus.
Okay.
It is not impossible for us to have a sense of common ground on the people who should be in the Electoral Commission. Let us allow that political engagement.
We don't want to work in a narrow way within the framework that you want to impose on us now. Can we deal with this question on a different platform after there have been engagements on what the common ground should be with regard to the people who should preside over elections, the outcomes of which all of us have to accept? It is a sincere request that we are putting to you.
If it is difficult to take a decision from that Chair, consult the political leadership and then come back to us and say that we can do this in a different manner.
Okay.
Not in the manner in which you want to do it now.
All right.
It is a sincere request.
Yes, take your seat, hon member.
Deputy Speaker, I would just like to enforce something with you. You made a ruling in regard to Rule 97(a) - you don't want to proceed in that manner. What I am saying to you is that we have a way of pulling this away from the brink by using Rule 76. I need you to make a ruling on that.
All right. Hon members, on the advice of the Chief Whip of the Opposition, I have now made up my mind on the House's earlier view that this matter must be debated and discussed here. The matter will now proceed to its next stage so that each member in the House expresses his or her view on this matter. That decision will be made by the House, not by the presiding officer here.
I now put the Question to the House. Hon member, we are going to the original motion before the House. Will you listen to me? Please, hon ...
Hon Deputy Speaker.
What are you rising on, hon member?
May I address you?
Yes, address me, hon member.
Deputy Speaker, it was once said that a fool elected by a fool will be led by a fool, but the biggest fool is the fool who elected that fool. [Interjections.] I am appealing to you, Deputy Speaker, not to fall within that category but to rule in a proper fashion here.
Hon member, I notice that the heat in the House is overcoming you. With respect, hon members, let's also remind you that we need to proceed with the Question before the House. [Interjections.] I want to plead with you not to place before us an obstacle to running the House. The Question before the House is that Mr Mashinini ...
Deputy Speaker, I have a point of order.
What is your point of order, sir?
The hon member must withdraw what he said, that the people are sitting here as fools to try to elect a fool. It is not correct. He has to withdraw it.
Yes. Take your seat, hon member. Hon McGluwa, what do you say to that request? [Interjections.]
Deputy Speaker, I said, "It was once said that a fool elected by a fool will be led by a fool, but the biggest fool is the fool who elected that fool." [Interjections.]
Hon member, and this is your reference to hon members. Do you think we must accept that?
No. I ...
So, withdraw that if you say no.
No, I was asking you, Deputy Speaker ...
Just withdraw it.
No, I asked you not to fall within that category.
Just withdraw it.
I never said that anyone was a fool here.
Just withdraw it.
I never said anyone was a fool. [Interjections.]
Just withdraw it. All right, hon member. I name you. Hon McGluwa, I name you.
Hon members, we will now put the Question before the House. [Interjections.] Hon members, order! Hon members, you will be orderly. We will proceed with the business of the House. [Interjections.] Please do not act on behalf of the Chair until we finish this business. You will act on behalf of the Chair once the Chair is not here. For now, the Question before the House is that Mr Mashinini be appointed the Chairperson of the Independent Electoral Commission, as recommended.
HON MEMBERS: No! [Interjections.]
Those who ...
Hon Deputy Speaker.
Hon Chief Whip?
Can I correct you, please?
No, no. Hon member, I am being given guidance right now. Can I just get that guidance?
I want to correct the guidance you have just given us now. Please.
No, that is what is being done, hon Chief Whip. Please.
Question put: That the nomination of Mr Vuma Glenton Mashinini to serve on the Electoral Commission be approved.
Division demanded.
The House divided.
We would like to remind members that they may only vote from their allocated seats.
AYES - 223: Abrahams, B L; Adams, F; Adams, P E; Bam-Mugwanya, V; Bapela, K O; Basson, J V; Bekwa, S D; Beukman, F; Bhengu, P; Bhengu, N R; Bhengu, F; Bilankulu, N K; Bongo, B T; Bonhomme, T J; Booi, M S; Boroto, M G; Boshielo, S P; Brown, L; Capa, R N; Capa, N; Carrim, Y I; Cele, B H; Cele, M A; Chabane, O C; Chikunga, L S; Chohan, F I; Chueu, M P; Coleman, E M; Cronin, J P; Davies, R H; Didiza, A T; Dirks, M A; Dlakude, D E; Dlamini, B O; Dlamini-Dubazana, Z S; Dlomo, B J; Dlulane, B N; Dunjwa, M L; Ebrahim, E S; Faku, Z C; Frolick, C T; Fubbs, J L; Gamede, D D; Gcwabaza, N E; Gigaba, K M N; Gina, N; Godi, N T; Goqwana, M B; Gordhan, P J; Gumede, D M; Jeffery, J H; Joemat-Pettersson, T M; Johnson, M; Jonas, M H; Kalako, M U; Kekana, H B; Kekana, P S; Kekana, C D; Kekana, M D; Kenye, T E; Khoarai, L P; Khosa, D H; Khoza, T Z M; Khoza, M B; Kilian, J D; Koornhof, G W; Kota- Fredricks, Z A; Lesoma, R M M; Letsatsi-Duba, D B; Loliwe, F S; Luzipo, S; Maake, J J; Mabasa, X; Mabe, B P; Mabe, P P; Mabija, L; Mabilo, S P; Mabudafhasi, T R; Madella, A F; Madlopha, C Q; Maesela, P; Mafolo, M V; Mafu, N N; Magadla, N W; Magadzi, D P; Magwanishe, G; Mahambehlala, T; Mahlalela, A F; Mahlangu, D G; Mahlangu, J L; Mahlobo, M D; Maila, M S A; Majola, F Z; Makhubela-Mashele, L S; Makhubele, Z S; Makondo, T; Makwetla, S P; Malgas, H H; Maluleke, J M; Manamela, K B; Manana, M N S; Manana, D P; Mandela, Z M D; Mantashe, P T; Maphatsoe, E R K; Mapisa-Nqakula, N N; Mapulane, M P; Martins, B A D; Masango, M S A; Masehela, E K M; Maseko, L M; Mashatile, S P; Mashego-Dlamini, K C; Mashile, B L; Masina, M C; Masondo, N A; Masuku, M B; Masutha, T M; Mathale, C C; Mathebe, D H; Matlala, M H; Matshoba, M O; Matsimbi, C; Mavunda, R T; Maxegwana, C H M; Mbalula, F A; Mbete, B; Mchunu, S; Mdakane, M R; Memela, T C; Mfeketo, N C; Mjobo, L N; Mkongi, B M; Mmemezi, H M Z; Mmola, M P; Mmusi, S G; Mnganga - Gcabashe, L A; Mnguni, P J; Mogotsi, V P; Mokoto, N R; Molebatsi, M A; Molewa, B E E; Moloi-Moropa, J C; Morutoa, M R; Mosala, I; Mothapo, M R M; Motshekga, M A; Motsoaledi, P A; Mpumlwana, L K B; Mthembu, J M; Mthembu, N; Mthethwa, E M; Mudau, A M; Muthambi, A F; Nchabeleng, M E; Ndaba, C N; Ndabeni-Abrahams, S T; Ndongeni, N; Nel, A C; Nene, N M; Nesi, B A; Ngcobo, B T; Ngwenya-Mabila, P C; Nkadimeng, M F; Nkwinti, G E; Nobanda, G N; November, N T; Nqakula, C; Ntombela, M L D; Nxesi, T W; Nyalungu, R E; Nyambi, H V; Nzimande, B E; Oliphant, M N; Oliphant, G G; Oosthuizen, G C; Pandor, G N M; Patel, E; Peters, E D; Phaahla, M J; Phosa, Y N; Pikinini, I A; Pilane-Majake, M C C; Qikani, A D N; Radebe, J T; Radebe, G S; Ralegoma, S M; Ramaphosa, M C; Ramatlakane, L; Ramokhoase, T R J E; Rantho, D Z; Raphuti, D D; Scheepers, M A; September, C C; Shope-Sithole, S C N; Sibande, M P; Sisulu, L N; Siwela, E K; Sizani, P S; Skosana, J J; Skwatsha, M; Smith, V G; Surty, M E; Thabethe, E; Thomson, B; Tleane, S A; Tobias, T V; Tom, X S; Tongwane, T M A; Tseke, G K; Tseli, R M; Tshwete, P; Tsoleli, S P; Tsotetsi, D R; v R Koornhof, N J J; Van Rooyen, D D D; Van Schalkwyk, S R; Williams, A J; Xasa, T; Xego-Sovita, S T; Yengeni, L E; Zokwana, S Zulu, L D.
NOES - 127: Alberts, A; America, D; Atkinson, P G; Bagraim, M; Baker, T E; Balindlela, Z B N; Basson, L J; Bergman, D; Bhanga, B M; Boshoff, H S; Bozzoli, B; Brauteseth, T J; Breytenbach, G; Buthelezi, M G; Cardo, M J; Carter, D; Cassim, Y; Chance, R W T; Davis, G R; De Freitas, M S F; De Kock, K; Dreyer, A M; Dudley, C; Esau, S; Esterhuizen, J A; Figg, M J; Figlan, A M; Filtane, M L W; Gana, S M; Gardee, G A; George, D T; Gqada, T; Groenewald, P J; Grootboom, G A; Hadebe, T Z; Hill-Lewis, G G; Hlengwa, M; Holomisa, B H; Hoosen, M H; Horn, W; Hunsinger, C H H; Jafta, S M; James, W G; Jongbloed, Z; Joseph, B D; Kalyan, S V; Kethebahle, V; Khawula, M S; Khoza, N P; Khubisa, N M; Kohler, D; Kopane, S P; Krumbock, G R; Lees, R A; Lekota, M G P; Lorimer, J R B; Lotriet, A; Louw, E N; Lovemore, A T; Mabika, M S; Mackay, G; Mackenzie, C; Macpherson, D W; Maimane, M A; Majola, T R; Malatsi, M S; Marais, E J; Marais, S J F; Masango, S J; Mashabela, N R; Matiase, N S; Matlhoko, A M; Matsepe, C D; Matshobeni, A; Maxon, H O; Maynier, D J; Mazzone, N W A; Mbatha, M S; Mbhele, Z N; Mc Gluwa, J J; Mcloughlin, A R; Mhlongo, T W; Mileham, K J; Mncwabe, S C; Mokgalapa, S; Morapela, K Z; Motau, S C; Moteka, P G; Mpontshane, A M; Msimang, C T; Mulaudzi, T E; Ndlozi, M Q; Nkomo, S J; Nqweniso, N V; Ollis, I M; Plouamma, M A; Rabotapi, M W; Redelinghuys, M H; Robinson, D; Ross, D C; Schmidt, H C; Selfe, J; Shelembe, M L; Shinn, M R; Shivambu, N F; Sithole, K P; Sonti, N P; Stander, T; Steenhuisen, J H; Steenkamp, J; Steyn, A; Stubbe, D J; Swart, S N; Tarabella Marchesi, N I; Terblanche, J F; Tshishonga, M M; Van Damme, P T; Van Der Merwe, L L; Van Der Walt, D; Van Der Westhuizen, A P; Van Dyk, V; Volmink, H C; Vos, J; Walters, T C R; Waters, M; Whitfield, A G; Wilson, E R.
ABSTAIN - 2: Galo, M P; Majeke, C N.
Question agreed to.
Nomination of Mr Vuma Glenton Mashinini accordingly agreed to in accordance with section 6(2)(c) of the Electoral Commission Act, 1996.