Chairperson, let me take this opportunity to thank all the members who participated in the debate. [Interjections.] Let me also thank the senior officials from the intelligence community of South Africa and the global intelligence community who are here with us today, because we continue to co-operate.
Let me begin by trying to respond to a few issues. The hon Stubbe talked about how wrong and undesirable the restructuring is. It became clear to me that he was quoting the 1994 White Paper and he is married to it, whether it works or not, because he is a person who is always married to our past. [Interjections.]