No, you must understand these things. Mr Lee, I agree with the Deputy Minister that it's too soon for you to leave this man on his own as he will cost your party votes. [Laughter.]
Regarding the issue of this 15% Municipal Infrastructure Grant that you are talking about, worrying about it being taken out of municipalities, let me say there is no municipality in this country that we have not been to, and where 15% is used for toyi-toying, water installations and all those kinds of things.
About three weeks ago I was in the Southern Cape, in Knysna, George and Hessequa. I met with the officials. I took people there. Do you think those people had time to listen to us?