... maybe let me start with the DA and the FF Plus questions arose about drought. I just want to say that the department like the rest of Cabinet recognises the dire situation as it relates to the issue of drought. However, I also want to remind the House that the issue of declaring the relation to drought is the Co-operative Governance and Traditional Affairs, Cogta, issue. What we are busy with, as a department, is an interventionist mode. In this regard, we have been intervening like the dire situation in the Northern Cape where we have been able to make money available to the amount of R30 million