Deputy Chairperson, this is the first time in five years that the presiding officer in this House goes to the point where a debate is being taken into proof what you say. This is a one thing when someone says there is no truth in that then we go back to
the rule which says that you have freedom of speech in this House. The freedom of speech in this House has continuously from the first year up till now, not being utilised up to a point now that everything hon Engelbrecht said was contested in this House. This is closure of the freedom of speech in this House from the presiding officer because we all know that it is a common thing that card- carrying people get EPWP jobs.