I am saying this attitude portrayed by the liberals in our society represents a disastrous dichotomy for South Africa and our revolution. We are saying that the state must intervene. A democratic state must will or force the financial sector to come to the party with a genuine programme on skills investment.
The last point is put directly to hon Minister Gugile Nkwinti. We want to frontload the attitude and framework that says, if we are to succeed at cracking the tormenting poverty in South Africa, let's have high- impact projects in every region in our country. Yes, it might be not genuine enough in term of resources, but if we want to crack poverty and deal with inequalities in each and every region, let's have a pilot project on rural development, which is unlike having one project per province.
The second idea is that we enforce the issue of agricultural co-operatives. We will never survive in this programme if we don't foster that. Siyabulela, Sihlalo. [Thank you, Chair.]