Yes, we have certainly discussed the clean audit question in general and nationally. We have also discussed the question of consultants.
We have realised that a lot of resources have gone to consultants instead of going to service delivery, and we have approached the matter from that angle. We have agreed that government at all levels, from national and provincial to municipalities, needs that skills transfer. You need to skill the people who are employed. We have also discovered that generally speaking civil servants are employed because of their specific skills and profession. However, once they are employed, they employ the services of consultants instead of doing the work they have been employed for. That needs to be remedied.
The Free State is not the only case, but maybe it is a particular case to refer to.
We have discussed the issue in general, that we need to reduce this dependency on consultants. What happens, we discovered, is that people with experience in government resign from government to form consulting companies. Then they come and do exactly the same job. I think this needs to be remedied. We take the point, we have discussed it and we are looking at ways to remedy this.