Thank you very much, Chairperson. Let me thank the members who participated. Before coming here, I was of the view that it would be a very boring debate, but I think it was lively and also lengthy. I was surprised by the number of members participating who were reminded of the one-minute rule. I did not think that we would have that much to say, but I'm glad that Vote No 13 has so occupied our minds.
Let me turn to the issues raised by the hon Harris. I want to assure him that this is the Statistics SA Budget Vote, and not the "Adcorp Budget Vote". But, you know, this matter was canvassed in the committee report and I want to say that, while we were sitting there, that there was actually a question filed by an individual, Mr Sharp, to individuals in Statistics SA asking for clarity on methodology.
He did not know how to calculate certain things, but that did not prevent that gentleman from going to the press and talking about things. Now, you've had a situation, which is most unfortunate, in which a number of academics - Martin Wittenberg and Haroon Bhorat at the University of Cape Town and people like Andrew Levy and Terry Bell - have disagreed fundamentally with the arguments. I think that on the bench here, between yourself and the hon Ross, you have to clarify this matter, because you either accept the submissions by a loan shark, that we do not have an unemployment problem, or you accept what the hon Ross said and we do. [Interjections.]