Geraldine Fraser-Moleketi is in a very senior position in the United Nations. Maria Ramos is in a very senior position in Barclays Africa.
Did they attain those positions on merit or because of a quota? No, they got there because of merit. When this Bill goes through, we will have women in positions because of quota, not because of merit. Now the hon Minister should think when she goes home tonight about whether she is a quota Minister or a merit Minister. I really wonder, but she should know. That is where we are going.
The problem is that this Bill is trying to do the impossible. The ANC is rushing this Bill through Parliament and through the system. However, you cannot legislate certain things that should be normal and that should be in the hearts and minds of South Africans out there.
The hon Lamoela said exactly what the real issues and challenges facing women out there are. However, you are not addressing those; you are busy with window-dressing!
I wanted to ask the Minister a question, but she was not prepared to answer. So let me ask her the question now. You said to the House just now that the ANC is the only party that has 50%/50% representation throughout their structures. Hon Minister, is that the truth, and is that the correct position when you look down your national list from position number one? Don't you have 50%/50% representation only after the first 80 positions? I will wait for your response when you reply to the debate. Thank you very much. [Applause.]