Hon Chair, as the ANC, we support Budget Vote No 37. Let me indicate that the NDP, which is spoken about so much by the DA, is saying that one of the things that we should be able to do is to make sure, particularly in investment, that we use the user-pay system.
In this instance, we believe that when we legislated the e-tolls here in this House, we were living up to that ideal of the user-pay system. In my view it is therefore unheard of that people are now starting to talk that way. Let me also indicate that, for Sanral to be able to have as much road mileage in terms of job creation, road management and road maintenance, we should be able to look at the best methods of making sure that we are able to pay. I do not understand what the EFF is saying. [Interjections.] They are lost. Let me say to my colleague in the EFF, you are lost. You should go back and become a traffic cop again so that we can follow up on you. [Interjections.] The roads in Limpopo that have potholes - it is you and your ilk who stole money from Limpopo and used it to be here today. [Interjections.]