Chairperson, with your permission, I thought we had made a ruling that we must not be personal in this House. I find the reference to the wife of Buti Manamela as being similarly inappropriate. [Interjections.] Whatever disagreements you may have, she is Vuyo Mhlakaza, an independent person in her own right. To actually talk like this seems like we are deteriorating into the same situation that we had ruled on, Chair, that we should not be personal.