House Chairperson, hon Deputy Minister of Finance, hon members and special delegates, I have to comment on one of the previous speakers, hon Van Rooyen, who said that Salga did not attend certain meetings. Unfortunately, there are only nine of us on the Salga national executive council, and I am the closest one, in the most beautiful town in South Africa, George. That is 440 km from here. The others are all way off, so it is not always possible for us to attend all of the NCOP meetings, because members hold positions such as mayors, deputy mayors, Speakers, etc. That is a problem. But anyway ...