Coming to SADC, the Botswana, Lesotho, Namibia, Swaziland, BLNS, countries of the SADC region have signed an Interim Economic Partnership Agreement. What does that mean for the SA Customs Union, Sacu, as a customs union? What will Sacu countries do now? Will they trade as Sacu members or will they now trade as someone who has signed the Economic Partnership Agreement and according to the rules of the EU? These are some of the issues we need to speak about. One of the issues the EU also want us to ... [Time expired.]