We do, Deputy Chair. We do, hon member. But I can tell you very interesting experiences, we find problems. In some farms, if we just come without a notice, people report us for trespassing. Yes, they do that. We have to give a notice. If we have given a notice, we find the farm locked, the owner is not there or the manager is not there. We could see that it is done deliberately. These are the types of the problems which we are getting.
But of late, if they happen to co-operate, you find that they do not want you to have an interaction with the workers. They want to give you only one story from one side. They sit there with a team of lawyers or some organisations which are representing them, a team of lawyers who would put lots of questions which you can see that these are obstacles. [Interjections.] That's why. [Interjections.] I have said there are some organisations. That's why we have requested
meetings with some of the associations to sit with them and tell them that they can't be obstacles on these issues of compliance.
What I am trying to say is that in some instances, they do comply. Some of them do comply but in some instances, you can see that they do not want to comply. I think that's where we have to be hard. I have set my strategy simple, pick up one, two or three and be very harsh to send a message. If it means you have to close them, you must do it. You hear, their supporters are already screaming because they enjoy the exploitation of the black people. [Interjections.] They enjoy it. [Interjections.]