Hon members, let me make a ruling hon Oliphant. Hon members, order! The hon member quoting herself says by hearsay and by hearsay can not be a matter for us to really entertain, because...and you know my worry is just that ordinarily I should have said, we will then have to refer the matter for another sitting. Hon members, the two of you ... I am still making a ruling, hon Ximbi can you please be in order, can you be in order hon members and allow make a ruling on this matter! It's a very sensitive issue; we are not going to have another sitting to deal with this matter, and therefore I will rule as follows: I will definitely report the matter because we are still on, even if it's our last sitting, but constitutionally we will still be operationally, as NCOP.
I will refer the matter to the Chairperson for a decision then to be taken based on the investigation as to whether a hearsay that has got a serious, serious implication on the character of a Member of Parliament can therefore be. And I am happy that I made the ruling in the absence of the Chair, in the House because it's a matter that I' m going to refer to her and a decision then will have to be communicated to the said member ... who said that particular matter. I think that is the best way to deal with, because say that in the next sitting of the House we might not have a next sitting until the sixth sitting which will be the first sitting as a matter of urgency, but we will refer the matter to the Chair for a decision. Can you continue hon member.