Please sit down, hon member. That's not a point of order. It's a debate. It's your point of view, not a point of order. Please continue.
The MINISTER OF HIGHER EDUCATION, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY: Hon Chair,
the other problem with the EFF is that, you have not condemned the destruction of university property. Some of your students have actually being involved in enormous destruction. Hon Chair, 2015 to 2016, more than R800 million of university property was destroyed in this country. It has never happened; the EFF has never condemned that. Instead, some of the major destroyers are the people we are defending, we won't listen to you. Where are we going to get all these other things that you are saying if you also are not joining us to say no to destruction of university and college property? I think that is very important that we actually say that. By the way, there is travel for free education. [Interjections.]