Hon Deputy Chairperson and hon Deputy Minister, my name is Sandlana Smit. I am from the Free State. I am new. Thank you for this opportunity. The question that I would like to just address to the Deputy Minister is that, are you aware sir that call centres of Eskom are currently closed and moved from buildings that belong to Eskom to buildings that they are newly rented, newly since they have been made that they are new people employed. I am just asking, is that really cost containment? This is also now a strain not just on additional expense for Eskom, but it's also additional expenses for the labourers and the employees. Thank you, sir.