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  • PROCEEDINGS OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF PROVINCES (Thursday, 28 March 2019)

NATIONAL GAMBLING AMENDMENT BILL (Consideration of Bill and of Report thereon)

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  • Mr E Makue 28 Mar 2019 hansard

    Hon Chairperson and hon members, let me alert you that this is going to be one of the shortest reports that I have ever delivered. On behalf of the Select Committee on Trade and International Relations, we have deliberated on and considered the subject of the National Gambling Bill [B27B-2018], section 76 Bill, that was referred to us and I report in terms of the NCOP Rule 171(1)(b) that we as committee, have considered the Bill.

    The committee reports further as follows: The National Gambling Amendment Bill was referred to the select committee on the 4 December 2018 and the committee received the briefing by the Department of Trade and Industry on the Bill on the 30 January 2019. We then, because it's a 76th Bill, had a various public hearings within each of the nine provinces and we have received mandates from the provinces. The mandates indicate that three of the provinces have voted against the Bill and three of our provinces voted for the Bill.

    At the time that we had our last meeting which was last week, two of the provinces have not submitted the mandates to us. Chairperson, in terms of Rule 171(1)(b), it requires a select committee who has not agreed on a Bill to table the Bill as referred to it in the council. Chairperson, the committee was in limbo because we were sitting with three - three. In terms of sections of the Constitution, we get our mandates from the provinces and because the select committee was in limbo, I now have to return this Bill to the august House. Thank you, Chair.

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  • Chairperson Of The Ncop hansard

    Thank you Sir. Hon members, in terms of Rule 171(1), the committee to which a Bill has been referred to is required to table a report to this House. The Bill as agreed to or the Bill as referred to. Rule 171(2) compels the committee in its report to

    states whether it recommends approval or a rejection of the Bill. The Bill tabled by the committee in terms of Rule 171(1) must relate to the content of the Bill. This will be a clear indication that the committee has considered the Bill in detail. Rule 171(2) requires the committee to report to the House on the conclusion that the committee has reached on the Bill.

    Hon members, in terms of this report as presented by the Chairperson, equal numbers of votes, for and against, in fact, it was three - three and there was one province that abstained. The committee could therefore not take a decision. Consequently, the committee makes no recommendations to the House on how to deal with the matter. We then had to consider what to do with the Bill. We had to research because this is the first time the NCOP gets in to this situation.

    We have an option to take the Bill into the House and convert the House into a committee. Now, this will be cumbersome if not constitutionally impossible for the House to deal with a Bill in this way, especially because this particular Bill affects the provinces. This will be tantamount to convert the House into committee as a whole. Our Rules actually do not make provision for this and it is therefore desirable to give the committee the opportunity to finalise the deliberations on

    the Bill and make recommendations to the House as required by Rule (171)(2).

    Therefore, this Bill is therefore referred back to the committee for it to conclude the deliberations on the Bill in terms of Rule 238 so that this Bill does not lapse. I know that members are going to jump and say but this is your last sitting. Hon members, we are in terms of the Constitution, still in office and our term expires immediately before the first sitting of the provincial legislatures.

    We also want to say that we would exhort in terms of Rule 238 that the Sixth Parliament actually gets ceased with this Bill. Therefore, that would be my ruling on how we need to deliberate with this. Thank you very much. If we are allowed to continue, the Secretary will read the next order.

    Debate Concluded.

    Bill referred back to the Committee.

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