House Chairperson, on a point of order: I just want to clarify this because it is the second time now that I have been accused of saying that the hon Tobias was in the bar. I have never said she was in a cellar or the bar. I said she was in the SLOW lounge. The SLOW lounge is an airport lounge obviously but hon Pandor hasn't been there and frankly if the cap fits put it on the bottle. [Interjections.] [Applause.]
Hon Steenhuisen, actually I don't think that's a point of order. You are making a statement. I've asked the hon member ... [Interjections.] Order! Order! Hon Steenhuisen, you're a Chief Whip. I listened, she asked for clarity and I asked the member, he has clarified and I said I will reflect on what he's said. I've not made any ruling so you have got no point really to say what you are saying right now. hon member, can you proceed with your speech.
House Chairperson, on a point of order: May I address you on Rule 85 then because what the hon Pandor has in fact done is cast aspersions